Kevin Abstract speaks on Ameer Vann’s exit from Brockhampton

“It fully fucked me up.”

Brockhampton frontman Kevin Abstract has opened up about Ameer Vann’s departure from the group in 2018.

Speaking to hitmaker and Def Jam co-founder Rick Rubin for GQ’s web series, The Epic Conversation, Abstract said that he had no regrets about ousting Vann from the group, following the multiple sexual misconduct allegations made against the rapper. However, Abstract wished he’d had more time to talk things out with his former bandmate before his exit.

“It fully fucked me up,” Abstract told Rubin, “because it’s someone I’ve known since I was 14, almost a decade. And cutting someone off in front of people—an audience—was a wild thing. It’s something you think about every single day.”

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Abstract added that he’s since spoken to Vann following the fallout, but called their conversation “quick” and “heartbreaking.” When Rubin asked if the rapper missed his former bandmate, Abstract replied, “Yes. Being in a group is weird, it’s a weird thing […] Our shit is rooted in, like, brotherhood—real family shit.”

Although the Brockhampton frontman asserted the group had no regrets on letting Vann go, Abstract also wished he “didn’t make the decision so quickly.” “Even if we made the exact same decision, I wish there was a little bit more time to talk […] And maybe that’s because I just miss how shit used to be, so I wish there was a little bit more time,” he said.

Vann was a member of Brockhampton from 2015 until May 2018. In a statement released by the rap collective at the time, they said that they were “lied to” and would not “tolerate abuse of any kind.” “We want to sincerely apologize to the victims affected by Ameer’s actions,” the statement read. “We’re sorry for not speaking up sooner. […] This is not a solution to their suffering, but we hope this is a step in the right direction.”

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Brockhampton have released two albums since then: 2018’s Iridescence and 2019’s Ginger. Meanwhile, Vann returned to music last year with his debut solo project, Emmanuel.

Watch Abstract’s full conversation with Rubin below:

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